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bigmaho1

Joined: 16/08/2009 09:43:45
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Location: Mt Kisco, NY
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Open question, how hard is it to change the TC? I'm not a mechanic and only have basic tools, so I'll find someone to do the work. I assume it means lifting it up and dropping the transmission, fitting in the converter and re-attaching. Can most mechanics do it or do I need a diesel or transmission specialist (specialist? this sounds way too medical . Any guess how long it should take?
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Billy

2006 CRD w/ Eco Tune, TC tune, new modified fuel filter/water separator and new Mopar TC
2006 CRD Ltd Eco-tune.
Jeep Patriot (to keep the kids away from my diesel
LOSTCRD

Joined: 18/07/2009 22:51:54
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Location: San Antonio, Texas
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Any good shop should be able to carry out the fix.

2006 Jeep Liberty CRD...OME Lift...ASFIR Aluminum Skids and Steps...

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brew1

Joined: 18/08/2009 22:13:29
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Location: Richfield WI
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Interesting to hear that I'm not the only one that experienced runaway acceleration. My last trip to the stealership for this condition they found a cracked vacum hose that they replaced and they reflashed the ECU. Haven't had an issue since. I thought about filing a complaint with NTSB but never got around to it. If others are experiencing the same issue, it would be more credible to file complaints at the same time.

Just curious, are you installing the upgraded Mopar transmission pump at the same time you install the upgraded Mopar TC's? Are your mules running un-neutered or neutered TCU's. Mine has been neutered a couple times since the stealership has replaced the TC twice.

Did you upgrade the tranny on either of your mules with a Transgo kit? Would you recommend one?

Have you observed a decrease in exhaust temps with the larger turbo and modified downpipe?


"Can't drive 65"

05 CRD Limited, RC1, 3rd DC TC, F37
57,000 miles on a 7/70 DC warranty as of 8-20-09
GreenDieselEngineering
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Joined: 10/07/2009 07:25:47
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Location: Southeast Michigan
We installed the upgraded Mopar TC on our 2006 (running the HOT tune) and on our 2005 (running the turbo kit). We did not install any other upgrades when the TC was swapped, i.e. no new pump and no Transgo shift kit. We did put new trans fluid filters in with the torque converters. Both of our vehicles are running with un-neutered transmission calibrations, this also puts the highest stress on the converter since there is more "lock-up" at lower vehicle speeds and lower corresponding engine rpm. Some customers running the tune are using the Transgo shift kit and seem to like it, we cannot give a recommendation as we have not tested one yet.

We have not noticed a big change in exhaust temps using the new turbo and downpipe from that of the base ECO tune. The ECO tune dropped the exhaust temps dramatically, so we are expecting the turbo kit to be in the same ballpark.

By the way, the turbo is actually smaller in dimensions than the stock unit. The compressor is exactly the same as stock, however the turbine is smaller than the stock turbine. The smaller turbine has improved flow characteristics, the vanes are next generation with a more pronounced airfoil design and the turbine assembly can spin almost 40,000 rpm faster than the stock unit. The speed makes the difference as we are able to flow almost 25% more air at the higher rpm ranges. More air allows more fuel and more power at the top end without causing high levels of smoke out the tailpipe.
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brew1

Joined: 18/08/2009 22:13:29
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Location: Richfield WI
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Just curious, un-neutered TCU's are pretty hard to come by. Did both your 2005 & 2006 come with un-neutered TCU's or were you able to recalibrate both TCU's back to the original specs?

Is good to hear that the exhaust temps dropped with the Eco tune. I'd be interested in hearing that is also the case with the turbo kit/modded DP and the hot tune.

How are the SAMCO hoses holdng up on your test mule? Would there be any benefit to encasing the SAMCO hoses in braided stainless sleeves?

Thanks ~ Mark

"Can't drive 65"

05 CRD Limited, RC1, 3rd DC TC, F37
57,000 miles on a 7/70 DC warranty as of 8-20-09
GreenDieselEngineering
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Joined: 10/07/2009 07:25:47
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We got lucky with the TCUs on our vehicles in that they are the original release.

The Samcos are doing very well on the vehicle with the turbo kit. They seem to be able to handle the added boost pressure without any problems. The oil does not bleed through these hoses, so they maintain their strength better than stock hoses. The ony issue we had was the hose exiting the turbo to the CAC tended to rub the air pressure sensor on the airbox. We rotated the hose and pushed the airbox against the inner fender to create some space. Some customers have added protection to the hose in this one area by wrapping it with aluminum or adding some braided wrap. Adding braided stainless sleaves would increase the burst threshold to some extent and would certainly look cool. The coolness factor should be worth 5 horsepower in our mind!
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TDIwyse

Joined: 01/10/2009 06:58:20
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Thanks for the tip on relocating things to avoid rubbing on the turbo side. Did you have any issues with the other end rubbing on anything?

Also, did you reuse the existing clamps or purchase new clamps with the Samcos?


2006 Liberty Limited CRD
2004 Ram Quad Cab 4x4 Cummins
2001 VW Jetta TDI
1990 YJ with 2006 Cummins B3.3T
GreenDieselEngineering
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The CAC hose going to the engine inlet did not have any issues with rubbing other parts. We reused the clamps when upgrading to the Samcos. As long as nothing is rubbing the Samco hoses, they should last for a long time.
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brew1

Joined: 18/08/2009 22:13:29
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Location: Richfield WI
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Is the February release of the turbo kit still on track? Any units left? What would be the price for a 2005 kit if I wanted to keep the stock ECU and have you send me a hot tuned ECU with the kit? I realize you will reflash the ECU for free if the dealer messes with it, however, I really would prefer not to have to deal with the downtime involved in shipping the ECU back and forth.

I don't suppose you have a un-neutered TCU laying around that you would like to sell? If so, shoot me an email.

How is that TC holding up on the 2005 mule with the hot tune and turbo kit?

Thanks

"Can't drive 65"

05 CRD Limited, RC1, 3rd DC TC, F37
57,000 miles on a 7/70 DC warranty as of 8-20-09
GreenDieselEngineering
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Location: Southeast Michigan
The release date for the turbo kit is still on track, incidentally our long lead item is a little plastic connector. There are still units available. The kit will not come with the ECO tune or HOT tune, a special tune is needed for the kit in order to power the new turbo. If you get the turbo kit, the stock ECU is useless unless you want to drive with the engine acting as if it was naturally aspirated. We can always work out something with ECU shipping to keep your downtime to a minimum.

For those interested in the turbo kit, we can do installations for customers if you want to drive-in for a day. The installation should not take more than 5-6 hours. In this manner there is no need to ship anything and we would be able to give some price concessions.

At this time, we do not have any un-neutered TCMs available...but we are always on the look-out just in case! The Mopar "Euro" TC is holding up great in both our vehicles. It has been a major step in the right direction.

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GDE
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NJCRD

Joined: 12/02/2010 08:47:42
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Just wondering, with the wiring... I have an SEGR kit installed. Will this affect that in anyway?
GreenDieselEngineering
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Location: Southeast Michigan
The turbo wiring changes will not interfere with wiring changes for the SEGR and they will not impact each other in any way. The SEGR ties into the MAF and EGR circuits based on our understanding. Only two wires need to be soldered to power the turbo and these tie into the EVM (electronic vacuum modulator) that powers the turbo in the stock configuration.
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Vote4Hef77
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Joined: 02/09/2017 15:33:21
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I am currently running an Eco Tune but, I am very interested in buying one of these Turbo Kits. Any idea if or when you might have any more?
GreenDieselEngineering
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Vote4Hef77 wrote: I am currently running an Eco Tune but, I am very interested in buying one of these Turbo Kits. Any idea if or when you might have any more?



We hope to have 4 more kits made up by 15 September.
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Vote4Hef77
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Joined: 02/09/2017 15:33:21
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GreenDieselEngineering wrote:
Vote4Hef77 wrote: I am currently running an Eco Tune but, I am very interested in buying one of these Turbo Kits. Any idea if or when you might have any more?



We hope to have 4 more kits made up by 15 September.


Did you happen to get any made up? I will have the money before the end of the week and could prepay if there is still a wait on those.
 
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